tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20954432.post4072618786399365957..comments2023-11-25T07:12:37.875-05:00Comments on Hating Autism: Neurodiversity, A Straight Shooting OpinionJohn Besthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03133970669787632440noreply@blogger.comBlogger101125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20954432.post-65798399758991911892007-07-15T15:15:00.000-04:002007-07-15T15:15:00.000-04:00It was another poster to his website -- not john b...It was another poster to his website <BR/>-- not john best/Fore Sam at all -- <BR/>who said <BR/><BR/>"Die neurodiversity die die die"<BR/><BR/>I should know,<BR/>I am the one who said it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20954432.post-25515549961612502722007-07-13T07:54:00.000-04:002007-07-13T07:54:00.000-04:00"Die neurodiversity die die die"0.oAnd people trus..."Die neurodiversity die die die"<BR/><BR/>0.o<BR/><BR/>And people trust you, MR Best? I find it very difficult to understand why people like you at all if this childish temper tantrum is what you call a valid argument.<BR/><BR/>Knowing you'll probably not put my comment up, possibly because you're scared someone might agree with me and we just might have somewhat of a mature debate on our hands, I can safely suggest that just maybe you act so childishly because you're scared about your son and his autism, but unable to put this into words, you lash out at the rest of the autistic community. I hope you realise you don't need to hide behind this pseudo-masculine veil of harsh words and threats. It's just ridiculous that a grown man would behave the way you do, and it just baffles me that other scared parents would side with you and join in your horrifying tirade.<BR/><BR/>Of course I'm not saying you must agree with everything I say. Personally I don't believe in a cure, at least not a mandatory one. There are those who don't want a cure, and I doubt they would be who they were if given one. However you seem to believe in a mandatory cure, but pull out the whole "no-one said you had to have one" when you have no arguments left, usually accompanied by profanities a little below your years.<BR/><BR/>What I do want you to do is just try to understand where the neurodiverse group are coming from. Something I doubt you've ever tried to comprehend. Perhaps because you spend too much time hiding from your fears, unable to communicate them.The Lilac Pilgrimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04257375791808853927noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20954432.post-60958291295430875012007-06-28T21:31:00.000-04:002007-06-28T21:31:00.000-04:00Googlybear said..."I wonder if there is a personal...Googlybear said...<BR/><BR/>"I wonder if there is a personality type that resembles hfa. An extremely introverted person with a very type A personality might be mistaken for being a high functioning aspie."<BR/><BR/>Schizoid<BR/>Schizotypical<BR/>Avoidant<BR/>Passive-Aggressive<BR/>Obsessive-Compulsive<BR/>Borderline<BR/>Narcissistic<BR/>Histrionic/Hysterical<BR/><BR/>Regarding Alzheimer's:<BR/>Until the very last stages they can have excellent long term memory.<BR/>Granddad might have been able to discuss with remarkable clarity events of nearly a century ago <BR/>yet lack the short term to tell you what he's eaten in the last half hour or realize he's asked you who you are for the fifth time in as many minutes.<BR/><BR/>Regarding The Schizophrenias:<BR/>Catatonic, Simple, Undifferentiated could have unlikely yet viable case for misdiagnoses in favor of Childhood Schizophrenia, but a Paranoid Schizophrenia would not.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20954432.post-9607496376160339972007-06-27T10:06:00.000-04:002007-06-27T10:06:00.000-04:00Nitwit, Since autism could never be missed, no 79 ...<I>Nitwit, Since autism could never be missed, no 79 year old could ever be accurately diagnosed with it.</I><BR/><BR/>You could, idiot, because you don't know the difference between Autism and genuine mercury poisoning. Same goes for all the quacks of the world - Kirby, Geier, Wakefield, Handley yada yada yada....<BR/><BR/>Go suck a lemon, asshat!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20954432.post-49982597115151677972007-06-18T09:21:00.000-04:002007-06-18T09:21:00.000-04:00My grandfather died just last Thursday! You want t...<I>My grandfather died just last Thursday! You want to dance on his fucking grave????? And what does a DNA test prove?? FUCK ALL!</I><BR/><BR/>Now wait a minute, Anon, you are the one who came in here with both guns blazing; yelling bullshit, calling the blog owner a fuck wit and saying die die about an organization. Then in the same post, you post a eulogy to your recently deceased grandfather. You really can't demand sympathy and special treatment while lashing out at a bunch of unrelated people in such a rude manner. If you want to debate, leave your grandfather's recent death out of it. If you want sympathy, go post on Leicht's board, so he can use you to further bolster his reputation he destroyed last week. Or, go take some time to grieve and remember your grandfather.Googlybearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07311268289530572865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20954432.post-56562752727694921452007-06-18T05:28:00.000-04:002007-06-18T05:28:00.000-04:00Nitwit, Since autism could never be missed, no 79...Nitwit, Since autism could never be missed, no 79 year old could ever be accurately diagnosed with it. DNA would tell us if he had fragile X or something else.John Besthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03133970669787632440noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20954432.post-78966848949212141192007-06-18T03:45:00.000-04:002007-06-18T03:45:00.000-04:00Foresam, serious question. What does a DNA test ha...Foresam, serious question. What does a DNA test have to do with Autism? I thought it was mercury poisoning?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20954432.post-27168096701925566032007-06-17T21:17:00.000-04:002007-06-17T21:17:00.000-04:00How come nobody is protesting this as vehemently a...<I>How come nobody is protesting this as vehemently as the 'die neurodiversity die' post???</I><BR/><BR/>I agree, Googly - two wrongs don't make a right.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20954432.post-48532236048517823252007-06-17T21:16:00.000-04:002007-06-17T21:16:00.000-04:00Nitwit, If you don't have a DNA test, you have no ...<I>Nitwit, If you don't have a DNA test, you have no proof. Your grandfather was just a nitwit like you.</I><BR/><BR/>HOW FUCKING DARE YOU!!!!!<BR/><BR/>My grandfather died just last Thursday! You want to dance on his fucking grave????? And what does a DNA test prove?? FUCK ALL!<BR/><BR/>Where's your science degree again? Which cereal pack was it on?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20954432.post-14975851576030920562007-06-17T20:43:00.000-04:002007-06-17T20:43:00.000-04:00Nitwit, If you don't have a DNA test, you have no...Nitwit, If you don't have a DNA test, you have no proof. Your grandfather was just a nitwit like you.John Besthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03133970669787632440noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20954432.post-64117712984363953332007-06-17T19:38:00.000-04:002007-06-17T19:38:00.000-04:00Nitwit, Gramps was diagnosed at 79 years old, huh?...<I>Nitwit, Gramps was diagnosed at 79 years old, huh? I say he had Alzheimer's. It's no different than autism. Prove me wrong.</I><BR/><BR/>Gladly, fuck wit. Alzheimers affects the memory. Gramps memory was as sharp as ever until the day he died. He didn't die from that.<BR/><BR/>He died from a heart attack.<BR/><BR/>So don't fucking assume without a science degree!!<BR/><BR/>Googly, thank you for your condolences. I put the post here because it proves Autism wasn't "born" in 1931. Anyone can be diagnosed with Autism at any time. Gramps got away with it because according to Mom he got a great wife who understood his quirks and he didn't need to be social outside the family. When a cousin was diagnosed in 1994, Mum thought that Gramps should be looked at because they were so like each other.<BR/><BR/>Gramps did apparently send some time in an asylum when he was a kid. Don't know much more detail than that but it could have been LFA then. He was taken out because the doctors were cruel.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20954432.post-37425064364430224862007-06-17T17:30:00.000-04:002007-06-17T17:30:00.000-04:00Look, look everyone death threats are being made a...Look, look everyone death threats are being made against an organization called Generation Rescue!!! An organization that the owner of this blog is an active member of. <BR/><BR/><I>DIE GENERATION RESCUE DIE!!<BR/></I><BR/><BR/>How come nobody is protesting this as vehemently as the 'die neurodiversity die' post???Googlybearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07311268289530572865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20954432.post-25046482935517860442007-06-17T13:03:00.000-04:002007-06-17T13:03:00.000-04:00Phil you are so funny. You keep me in stitches! ...Phil you are so funny. You keep me in stitches! Don't worry, nobody really feels threatened. We know that you are quite a softy and that you are merely joking. But thanks for the comic relief!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20954432.post-1673706191916071792007-06-17T12:00:00.000-04:002007-06-17T12:00:00.000-04:00RIP Grandpa FrancisBorn June 25 1915Died June 14 2...<I>RIP Grandpa Francis<BR/>Born June 25 1915<BR/>Died June 14 2007<BR/>Diagnosed with HFA 1994<BR/>(This post's for you!) </I><BR/><BR/>First, I am sorry for the recent loss of your grandfather. <BR/><BR/>I have to second what ForeSam said. Autism isn't diagnosed in old age. Alzheimers is though. It doesn't really matter. I am of the opinion that an autism diagnosis at age 89 is relatively pointless. <BR/><BR/>Have you ever noticed how nobody ever has a direct relative (parent, grandparent, great grandparent) who was LFA? Nobody ever talks about how dad wore a diaper, was non-verbal, sat in the corner screaming, rocking, biting thier arm and lining up cars their whole life. The reason is, that there is no way that would ever happen unless the person was raped. I wonder if there is a personality type that resembles hfa. An extremely introverted person with a very type A personality might be mistaken for being a high functioning aspie.Googlybearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07311268289530572865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20954432.post-91841438537889760202007-06-17T08:33:00.000-04:002007-06-17T08:33:00.000-04:00Nitwit, Gramps was diagnosed at 79 years old, huh...Nitwit, Gramps was diagnosed at 79 years old, huh? I say he had Alzheimer's. It's no different than autism. Prove me wrong.John Besthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03133970669787632440noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20954432.post-2838072207727679052007-06-17T04:36:00.000-04:002007-06-17T04:36:00.000-04:00Just stop shooting babies up with mercury and the ...<I>Just stop shooting babies up with mercury and the problem goes away.</I><BR/><BR/>Bullshit it does, fuck wit. Go and get yourself the qualifications to be a proper scientist, then you'll see that you are living a fucking lie.<BR/><BR/>DIE GENERATION RESCUE DIE!!<BR/><BR/>Cause Autism is here forever! Always has been!<BR/><BR/>RIP Grandpa Francis<BR/>Born June 25 1915<BR/>Died June 14 2007<BR/>Diagnosed with HFA 1994<BR/>(This post's for you!)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20954432.post-47270238992419861132007-06-16T09:36:00.000-04:002007-06-16T09:36:00.000-04:00Spydee, One genetic difference is the APO protein...Spydee, One genetic difference is the APO proteins which determine whether or not the kid can get rid of mercury. These would have always been part of the genetic makeup of some people. <BR/> Since nothing ever caused autism prior to 1931, we can safely say it was the stupidity of injecting neurotoxins into people that is to blame. Who cares about any other genetic markers? That's a huge waste of effort. Just stop shooting babies up with mercury and the problem goes away.John Besthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03133970669787632440noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20954432.post-47170881666501019592007-06-14T00:00:00.000-04:002007-06-14T00:00:00.000-04:00Spydee,I haven't fully finished reading all of you...Spydee,<BR/><BR/>I haven't fully finished reading all of your latest, but interrupting here anyway to tell you you've got my attention. I'm listening.<BR/><BR/>I have a separate and specific issue with neurodiversity and with particular participants than the biomed, etc one's you are addressing, and I wish I was able to communicate with you privately about this and get your thoughts on it.<BR/><BR/>Anyway, you have my attention, and my respect.<BR/>Proceed<BR/>(as I will now with reading the rest of what you have to say)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20954432.post-36059340366676864072007-06-13T19:38:00.000-04:002007-06-13T19:38:00.000-04:00foresamI am disappointed that you did not post a c...foresam<BR/>I am disappointed that you did not post a comment that acknowledged that environmental factors can cause demyelination and that mB12 helps the body repair that to the extent that it can. It is also the major building block in myelin to begin with. So you had a problem with me saying that WHY?<BR/>I realize that at this moment there is little known in the way of absolute fact regarding the success of actually repairing myelin sheaths because of the limited ability we have to determine in a living person whether repair is occurring or not and that there is not an absolute medical intervention to "fix" the problem. The Myelin Project is really pushing to find a way to repair damaged myelin sheaths and I am sure they will. They have already done the first transplant of Schwann cells in an MS patient. Is it so hard for you to accept that I believe my kids are genetically Autistic but that I can believe that there are children who may carry only the genetic markers for Autism and that may never have been diagnosed if they were not compromised by environmental toxins that they were more susceptible to because they had this genetic marker to begin with. Would it kill you to bury the hatchet somewhere other than in another parent of an autistic child's back. Like I said I am not the enemy you need to be concerned with. "Big brother" is watching and her name is Allison Tepper Singer and she has the ear of the likes of Hillary Clinton who stood on the floor of the senate and said that no mother should be forced to carry a severely disabled child to term. They already run a pre-screening blood test on EVERY pregnant woman in this country and in most of the world for Down's syndrome. If that test shows any abnormality they want to do an amniocentesis. If Down's is diagnosed they are counseled on how to get an abortion. They are not counseled on local Down's support groups so they can talk to parents actively raising Down's children to allow them to have a balanced perspective. they are counseled on how to get an abortion. It's coming and if I am right these kids with issues from environmental toxins will be included in their findings. Do you want your child to be in a position where a doctor is pressuring that child to abort your grandchild because that child is susceptible to environmental toxins. Let me say that I and a lot of bio-med parents realize that even if there are environmental toxins creating the autistic symptoms in some children if thimerosal alone caused autism then every single child out there that was vaccinated would have autism. Because it is a subset of children that develop Autism then it is a genetic difference in these children that make them susceptible. If there is a genetic difference in your child from the "normal or average" child then genetic research will find a way to diagnose that prenatally and then they will pressure any mother carrying such a child to abort the child.<BR/>I'm not the enemy!<BR/>ByeAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12813192026954290193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20954432.post-19607188163139297042007-06-13T18:55:00.000-04:002007-06-13T18:55:00.000-04:00Googlybear I agree that it is treating them, treat...Googlybear <BR/><BR/>I agree that it is treating them, treating them like they are children for whom God made me responsible and it would be irresponsible of me to not explore every possible way to help my child be the best possible person they can be.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12813192026954290193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20954432.post-34433637493333682682007-06-13T17:57:00.000-04:002007-06-13T17:57:00.000-04:00As to why some people do not want to treat their c...<I>As to why some people do not want to treat their children. There is nothing to treat in mine. They are not toxic and have been tested by DAN! approved doctors. I have been giving them cB12 because they are vegetarians. I am changing to mB12 in spray form because mB12 is more easily absorbed</I><BR/><BR/>Spydee, that IS treating your children. You checked to see if metal toxicity was an issue they needed treatment for, you had the tests run and it wasn't required. Ruling things out is an important part of the process. So you are trying MB12 which is probably smart, because I do believe from my history and what I know of autism and schizophrenia; that there is a probibility that there is a familial genetic issue with absorbing B vitamins. For my daughter have ruled out viral issues and PANDAS (strep). My daughter is very metal toxic, so we are chelating. I know other people who have great results treating viruses and strep, but it wouldn't be appropriate for my daughter.<BR/><BR/>I found it interesting that you have a great aunt who was institutionalized. I also have a great aunt who was institutionalized, nobody would say why, because nobody in my mom's family actually talks about anything "unpleasant". There is alot of oddities that run in the women in my mom's side of the family. I am going to test myself and my daughter for pyroluria, it can run in the females in a family. My mother was definately diagnosed with schizophrenia, when she was evened out on medication, she was very aspie/autie in behavior. We always thought it was from the schizophrenia that didn't show up until she was 35, but her sister told me she was always "eccentric" and that my grandmother (who also had some really odd issues) was very overprotective of her her whole life. I've always thought there was a genetic link between my grandmother, great aunt, mother, my sister, myself (though admittedly I and my mother's sister are the most unaffected) and now my daughter and their/our similar but differing mental issues.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20954432.post-81747762774964720742007-06-13T17:10:00.000-04:002007-06-13T17:10:00.000-04:00BTW foresam I am disappointed in you. I thought yo...BTW foresam I am disappointed in you. I thought you knew everything about me by the time you let me post on your blog. I figured you knew I have vegetarian kids and that my 6 year old is practically a vegan because he hates the texture of cheese and milk, won't eat anything frozen so that rules out ice cream, gags on yogurt, and makes projectiles out of eggs that are not cooked to a specific texture. What mom is not going to give her kid vitamins if they don't eat a well balanced diet for whatever reasons? Please don't tell me that you believe that being a picky eater is caused by vaccines. In my house I have the 6 year old that would starve himself if he didn't like the texture or color of the food (forget him eating anything orange this kid won't even eat orange m&m's), the 4 year old that will eat anything that doesn't eat her first (literally ANYTHING), and the budding chef (watch out Gordon Ramsey) whose creations are, to say the least, interesting. I thought you knew all that so I was shocked that you had to ask why the mother of a vegitarian (predominately vegan) brood like mine would supplement with B12. I assumed that you, of all people, would also know why I would use mB12 over cB12. However, from your statements I get the impression that you believe tha bio-med community "developed" or "invented" mB12 just as a "temporary fix" before chelation can do its thing. Much to you disappointment that is not reality. My mother has been taking mB12 shots since I was 8 years old after they removed her gall bladder and her liver function decreased to the point that her ability to metabolize B12 was compromised. I am 46. That is 38 years. DAN! didn't invent mB12 they just developed a treatment that used already existing substances one of which happened to be the most easily metabolized form of vitamin B12(cobalamine) which is methylcobalamine or mB12. I have no fight with you foresam an you don't have one with me as hard as you try to pick one I am not playing this game. Luv ya Think your're a great dad. Keep up the good work and may God bless.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12813192026954290193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20954432.post-43980892034977732007-06-13T16:53:00.000-04:002007-06-13T16:53:00.000-04:00Spydee, I'm not publishing your last comment. Yo...Spydee, I'm not publishing your last comment. You need to learn what Richard Deth taught us about how mercury impairs methylation.John Besthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03133970669787632440noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20954432.post-11825350691671507102007-06-13T14:05:00.000-04:002007-06-13T14:05:00.000-04:00Spydyee, Why are you using MB-12 if you think you...Spydyee, Why are you using MB-12 if you think your kids don't have mercury poisoning? Do you know why MB-12 helps kids?<BR/> It helps kids who have mercury interferring with methylation. It is a temporary "fix" that may allow kids to talk and gain some "attention" until all of the mercury can be removed. If a child is not mercury poisoned, MB-12 won't help at all.<BR/> Some DAN docotrs do not use the right tests to determine if a kid is mercury poisoned. Chelation challenge tests are not always useful. In fact, they camn be dangerous.<BR/> The only tests you should use to determine mercury toxicity is the porphyrin test or a hair test to check for deranged mineral transport.<BR/> Have your kids benefited from MB-12? If so, they are mercury poisoned.<BR/> The thing you miss about Neuroinsanity is that the leaders of the cult are not real people. They are experts in propaganda, they do not have autistic children, they are liars. You can not believe one word they utter. There can be no compromise worked out with these people.John Besthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03133970669787632440noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20954432.post-73040629185812449032007-06-13T13:48:00.000-04:002007-06-13T13:48:00.000-04:00http://combating-autism-speaks.blogspot.com/This i...http://combating-autism-speaks.blogspot.com/<BR/><BR/>This is the blog I have set up for discussing issues surrounding the coalition. <BR/>foresam I won't continue to hijack your blog for this discussion. Thank you for giving me the opportunity to address the people on your blog. I admire your love for your child and do support your right to try to help your child in the way you see fit. May God bless you in all your efforts. You and your family will be in my prayers.<BR/><BR/>"Yes, Annelle I Pray! There I Said It!" (Steel Magnolias)<BR/>AN before any negative comments come about this remark no I will not be praying that foresam learns to accept his child as Autistic! foresam I will be praying that God will bless you and your family with what is in his plan for you. If he sees fit for your child to be "cured" then that will happen. If not then you might consider he gave you an Autistic child because you are the kind of person that will not sit idly by and let injustice reign in this world so he gave you an experience in your life in order to get a strong person to fight for what is right.<BR/><BR/>googlybear I hope to see you over there soon.<BR/><BR/>I must take a break from this fun blog and go chat with the ND group to see if I have a single person willing to join me. You know even if I don't that I will be marching to this drummer all by myself if I have to. googly it may be just me and you! but maybe not so here I go into the ND camp.<BR/><BR/>Bye For NowAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12813192026954290193noreply@blogger.com