Wednesday, December 24, 2008

Pure Bullshit, Dr Rima Laibow, Lying Scoundrel

I received this pile of manure in an email from Dr Rima Laibow in which she tries to deny that she is a disinformation agent working against the best interests of children with autism. This is a lot of bullshit for a simple denial.

The fact remains that Dr Laibow is a lying piece of garbage.


Only a lying piece of garbage could possibly take such a strong stand against me for trying to post one simple link to a blog entry that I wrote advising people that voting for any incumbent politician for President was against their best interests. The worst that could have happened if I had been allowed to post that link on Dr Laibow's Yahoo group is that a handful of people might have looked at it. There is an even slimmer chance that my blog entry may have convinced anyone to change their mind a month before the election and vote against Obama and McCain.

So, no matter what Dr Laibow says in her defense, this proven liar is not to be believed. Dr Laibow would have us believe that she is looking out for our best interests by doing her thing with Codex Alimentarius to preserve our access to the vitamin supplements we need to help our autistic children. Yet, she adamantly refuses to allow me to post one bit of information that opposes the same politicians who will allow those supplements to be banned. By banning my opposition to those politicians, Dr Laibow, in essence took a stance in favor of banning those supplements and preventing us from curing our children of autism. By such vile action, Dr Rima Laibow advertised to the world that she is a lying scoundrel who is trying to harm our autistic children with her devious misinformation.
Here's some information on her husband, Gen Stubblebine.

And, here's my exchange of emails with the lying Dr Laibow where she now threatens to sue me:

No, you blogged disinformation which is actionable as both slander and liable. I am curious to know just what makes you think that what you have published IS the truth? Have you seen a single shred of information which substantiates a single one of those accusations? Please be advised that you might want to think again before you continue to present material which is, rather than the truth, blatant lies since that means that you, too, are engaging in slander and liable and are opening yourself to the same legal action that the perpetrators of these lies are. Before you make that mistake, why not write to the perpetrators and ask for the documentation that their absurd assertions rest upon. You will find that there are none.
I am so sorry that you have been misled by disinformation, but that is what has happened.
Yours in health and freedom,
Dr. Rima
Rima E. Laibow, MD
Medical Director
Natural Solutions Foundation

***Note here how Dr Laibow tries to avoid the fact that I determined she was a lying sack of dung because she refused to allow the truth about corrupt politicians to be published on her Yahoo group. Instead, she threatens to sue me about things other people wrote about her. This is a ploy used by liars all the time to avoid the truth about themselves.***


On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 9:30 AM, bettwice33@juno.com wrote:

Thanks for your email. I blogged the truth about you. Fuck you.
http://hatingautism.blogspot.com/2008/12/pure-bullshit-dr-rima-laibow-lying.html

I'll note here that every email I get from Dr Laibow begs for money and tries to sell me some coffee for $50 a pound. With Maxwell House costing me $2.99 a pound, Dr Laibows coffee seems a bit overpriced.


This is the piece that it appears the lying Dr Laibow is responding to:
Why does Dr. Rima Laibow use psychological warfare techniques?
<<< Back to Codex

When Dr. Rima Laibow first suddenly appeared on the anti-Codex landscape as leader of the newly-formed Natural Solutions Foundation, I began to wonder where she was coming from. Although she seemed to have a straightforward, hands-on approach to internet activism, something seemed to be amiss.

Long-term anti-Codex activist John Hammell had clearly identified the transnational treaties such as WTO, FTAA and CAFTA as integrating Codex language, placing jurisdiction outside of U.S. lawmakers. Yet Dr. Laibow not only ignored this connection, but actively dissuaded her growing community of online supporters from paying any attention to it, especially at the time when CAFTA was being debated in Congress and there was a real possibility of defeating it. (More on this dissuasion below.)

Then I learned that Dr. Laibow was suing Kevin Miller, allegedly for her having provided some funding for his brilliant and powerful video on Codex called “We Become Silent” but, apparently against her wishes, his including the connection to the above-mentioned treaties.

Since then she has engaged her online community in what appears to be a good cause - writing and calling Congress to stop BioShield 2, a truly horrific proposed law. But all discussion of Codex appears to be directing people into a useless diversion, writing and sending letters of “support” for an “alternative” to the Codex vitamin guidelines. We as ordinary people have zero impact on this process, since it is being drawn up by bureaucrats in the Codex delegations whose allegiance is primarily to the pharmaceutical industry. So getting people involved in this process is a wholesale waste of time.

Then I looked carefully at a message she sent to her supporters about Codex several months ago. In it I found the use of carefully-chosen psychologically-charged words, a technique used in psychological warfare tracts developed at U.S. Army Intelligence by a man named Edward G. Lansdale. This technique, called the Semantic Differential, has been used by our intelligence services widely, as part of programs to subvert “enemy” countries and other targets. (I first read about the Semantic Differential in a tract in Covert Intelligence Information Bulletin about psychological warfare used against Grenada, Chile, and Nicaragua.)

The Semantic Differential is a technique which uses culturally important psychologically-charged words to promote a particular point of view or, in the case of psychological warfare, to discredit an enemy. Here Dr. Laibow’s audience is middle-class, health-conscious, intelligent (and somewhat intellectual) Americans.

Here’s the example from Dr. Laibow’s message:

“If you think that your understanding of Codex is being manipulated by words (such as “risk assessment” as a scientific approach of toxicology appropriate to nutrients which are, by definition, non-toxic, for example), distortion (”CAFTA and FTAA have CODEX language in them so they are the same as the CODEX problem”) and distraction (who is a Druid?, who is a witch?, who is “Controlled Opposition”?, who is a CIA Agent?, who is a good person?, who is a bad person?, etc.”) you are right.”

The psychologically-charged words here are “manipulation,” “distortion,” and “distraction.” John Hammell had made the clear connection between CAFTA and Codex, and had accused the Natural Solutions Foundation (Dr. Laibow’s group) and several other organizations of being “controlled opposition groups” – groups taken over by, or owned by, people who appear to be opposed to Codex but who promote useless activism or tell people that there is nothing to worry about. In the above message, Dr. Laibow psychologically marginalizes Hammell’s position, not by refuting it, but by merely using words that do so by their psychological power in our culture among her audience.

Here is another even more dramatic example, from the next paragraph in her message:

“So the infighting and turf wars which have provided this distortion and distraction (and which the Natural Solutions Foundation will not dignify by entering since there is plenty of turf to go around in the world of health freedom) fulfill the role of the bloated and meaningless “news” that keeps us disconnected both from reality and from its meaning.”

Note the lead-in, using the psychologically-charged words “infighting” and “turf wars” before repeating the words “distortion” and “distraction.” She goes on to say that *her* (that is, her follower’s) organization stands above all this (“will not dignify by entering”). Then she goes in for the psychological kill: “bloated and meaningless news” that keeps us “disconnected both from reality and its meaning.” At this point, most readers would be subconsciously and consciously convinced that John Hammell is involving us in “turf wars,” “keeping us disconnected” from reality by distorting the facts and distracting everyone with “bloated and meaningless” news.

Finally, here is the psychological lead-out that puts people into their “comfort zone” knowing that what she has stated above is right and just:

“Read, study, follow the links and make sure that you are comfortable with both what is presented and what is concluded from that. Above all, question your sources and evaluate the answers carefully. I know that I do.

“You won’t always be correct, but you can always be informed. If you are an American, Thomas Jefferson and the founding fathers gave you that opportunity and obligation.”

If people were feeling at all uncomfortable with her subtle attack on Hammell, this puts their minds at ease. Acting as if she had presented unbiased information, she uses the psychologically-charged words and phrases “comfortable,” “question your sources,” and “evaluate the answers carefully.” Then confirming that her audience is intelligent, she reminds them that they “won’t always be correct” but can “always be informed.” Last but not least, she invokes Thomas Jefferson and the founding fathers giving us the “opportunity and obligation” to be informed.

In a similar article using similar psychological techniques, Dr. Laibow convinces readers, using psychologically-charged words such as “forces,” “intentional disinformation,” “misleading,” and “irrelevant” to convince her readers that attempting to stop the multinational treaty process is a waste of time, that instead they need to focus on changing the Codex regulations. Here’s are some excerpts:

“FTAA and CAFTA are really bad ideas for US interests. But all the recent focus in them as related to the CODEX issue because they contain CODEX language is either an error in the understanding of the real nature of the CODEX problem or, worse yet, intentional disinformation to drain off energy and political force from opposition to CODEX ALIMENTARIUS. FTAA and CAFTA are totally irrelevant to the CODEX issue.”

“Some people in the CODEX arena are now focusing on FTAA and CAFTA and saying that it is a waste of time to focus in CODEX because FTAA and CAFTA contain CODEX language in their text. These forces are either using mis- or dis- information by misleading people to think that because these trade agreements contain CODEX language they somehow are a significant part of the Codex problem.”

Dr. Laibow does not reveal that the many Codex committees are all controlled by the multinational agricultural and pharmaceutical companies, so that it is precisely what she is telling people to do – trying to change the Codex regulations – is fruitless. She does not reveal that the Codex regulations themselves, without multinational agreements such as FTAA and CAFTA in place, are just pieces of paper that lack any power.

These are masterful uses of Semantic Differential. Many orators and politicians have mastered this kind of psychological use of words without learning it from Army Intelligence, but one can only wonder where a naturopathic doctor such as Dr. Laibow might have learned to write in this fashion. Perhaps it was from working with her husband, General Albert Stubblebine, former head of the US Army Intelligence & Security Command (INSCOM) 1981-84. Anyone in that position would be steeped in knowledge about psychological warfare techniques and especially about the use of Semantic Differential.

While Dr. Laibow’s activism against the extreme excesses of the pharmaceutical industry appear to be genuine, one can only wonder why she is so intent on marginalizing those who want people to make the connection between Codex and the efforts by these same multinational corporations to enforce the Codex regulations and to place jurisdiction for that enforcement outside of Congress through multinational agreements such as WTO, CAFTA, and FTAA.

Jonathan Campbell
November 4, 2005

References:

Dr. Laibow’s messages and Dr. Laibow’s messages

Reference on Albert Stubblebine: www.mindcontrolforums.com/hambone/people1.html

Here is the lying Dr Laibow's response:

The TRUTH is our Defense…

Confused About the Natural Solutions Foundation?
That's Exactly What the Other Side Wants!

24 comments:

Anonymous said...

She had every right to decide wheter she wanted political stuff posted in her yahoo group. Does that mean shes against helping people cuz she doesnt believe in ralph nader or something? Your swearing is pretty low class. If anything your petty dispute trying to defame someone crusading against codex means you dont care about autistic kids or anyone for that matter. I hope you dont take this too personally, but really I live in Norway where codex is implimented and shes not lying, the problem with codex is serious enough to put this dispute aside, cuz if codex comes your way, you won't like it.

Foresam said...

If the Democrats and Republicans were voted out of office, we would be assured CODEX would not bother us. Laibow is not being honest.

Anonymous said...

The amount of disinfo she has spead about CODEX proves she's a liar and a shill. She has been outed by Ian Crane and others. In fact, most won't even refer to her site anymore. Not surprised she censored you.

Solar_Absolution said...

Yeah, she's a disinformation agent. Teamed with ex-military they're a lethal psy-ops duo.

Art said...

I ran into these two... it was hard to say either way? There are some serious tactics in place to derail your health freedoms, I do know this, there is Evil behind it that is literally the heartbeat of the beast himself. There has been so much spin and disinformation groups created, the media is not telling the truth, and we see our freedoms being undermined everyday around the world. If you ask me Alex Jones, Ron Paul.. all of em are controlled opposistion. It's like a circus of manipulation for control and gain. The It does not take a dummy to figure it out. It could be that these guys are for real... but the part about Bert being one of the Three Soldiers Of Satan is pretty Fkd-up. I had dinner with Satans Soldier! Does that make me one of the Three Soldiers of God himself seeing I was on the real side and a non fake? Theres some serious backgrounds with both of these two... but if they were CIA would you be able to find anything about them on the internet? Why all the Bad Info? Hello I'm Donald Duck

Foresam said...

Art, Like I said in the post, there's no good reason for Laibow to fight me tooth and nail over placing a comment on her Yahoo group stating my opinion about voting against Dem's and Rep's, especially if she is opposed to all of the crap both of those parties are pulling.

The rest is stuff I found while trying to figure out why this woman was so adamantly opposed to that one simple thing. I don't claim to know the whole truth about her but I know she's not on my side in trying to elect honest politicians.

Anonymous said...

Either way, she is trying to save your ass and mine from these atrocious government attempts to destroy nutrition and health on a global scale. Instead of talking about how full of crap she is, go out there and try to do the same. Disinformation agents don't usually go out and state how dangerous a DANGEROUS food standard is, or how the vaccines are killing us and how the governments and worlds largest organizations such as the WHO, FDA etc are in cahoots in this massive conspiracy to depopulate the planet. Only disinformation I see, is on this website-- No wonder she is attacking you and this blog-- It's the propaganda found on these sleazy little blogs that prevent activists from saving the future. MORE power to her and hope she changes the course we are being herded onto and then all of you little brainwashed puppets can thank her for saving your worthless asses! QUIT COMPLAINING AND GO DO SOME RESEARCH and QUIT THINKING THAT ELECTING A "RIGHT" POLITICIAN WILL BRING CHANGE!

Foresam said...

Anon,
I see you're too stupid to sign your name. That explains why you can't understand how good this propaganda is.

Any decent propaganda has a lot of truth to it, as does Dr Laibow's. What she does not tell you though is the thing that will really hurt you. She only tells you about things that would harm you if they were actually in the vaccines. They aren't there though. The damaging ingredient has been there since 1931 and they keep adding more of it while they tell us they have reduced it. Do you get that?

The reason this bitch is opposed to third party politicians is because she supports the mainstream corupt scoundrels with her propaganda. When the avian flu doesn't kill us, she wants to take credit for letting the government know that we know about it which supposedly scares them off from using it on us. In the meantime, they keep shooting more thimerosal into our kids, pregnant women and old folks because they know it kills those people. That's the fact she should be screaming her head off about but she never says a word about it. She's a lying piece of garbage.

Freedom said...

Karen,
If she is against a third party candidate that's kind of odd. However she may be naive as to just how insidious this is with our politicians.It's hard to tell.
I can understand your frustration. You try to offer help and a suggestion and you get rebuffed.

Foresam said...

Freedom,
It boggles the mind how anyone who opposes vaccines supports the politicians who allow those vaccines that continue to harm us.

Ingrid said...

Dear Anonymous,

You have rotten manners and you are obviously pretty dense.

Go read some books.

Ingrid

InformedDruid said...

Does anybody realise the vitamin limits they are imposing through codex, will keep people in chronic malnutrition. Why dont you bloggers look at the nutritional facts from thousands of years of auyervedic medicine, chinese medicine, etc. These codex mandates are setting up for a situation in which you require a prescription for vitamins. This right here, is pure craziness as vitamins are essential for life. And they include fluoride in the list of allowed minerals. fluoride has been shown ove rand over to cause fluoridosis. Other nations pay to remove it from their water.

Foresam said...

Druid,
You missed the point.
Rima Laibow wants people to vote for politicians who will allow these restrictions to become law.
She's a two faced cunt.

blouse said...

i have just come across this whilst trying to fully get my head round codex.
im sorry but foresam you have obviously been brain washed whilst searching the internet for information on rima laibow.
i have been looking around the internet myself to find out more about this lady and on the surface (if you are just to read things at face value, such as that bullshit report - Why Does Dr. Rima Laibow Use Psychological Warfare Techniques?) you can be quite easily led by the words and stories used to discredit this lady, but there is nothing in these articles. that whole article just mimics her message and then tries to relate an intelligent lady's way of speaking to psychological warfare techniques, hypocritically to say the least because using terms like that is a blatant scare tactic/psychological manipulation.
anon - thank god there are people that get it like you, what you said about this kind of thing preventing activists saving the future was spot on! but its not peoples fault they are being manipulated dr laibow is fighting a massive battle, bigger than we can imagine. i take my hat off to that lady. hopefully people will wake up to this before its too late.
i work in holland and barrett in brighton, england, and just as a bit of extra scary information for you all... they are in on it aswell!

Foresam said...

Blouse,
Don't feel bad, she had me fooled for awhile too. She's a con artist.

blouse said...

please tell me what you think she is trying to achieve if you think she is a con artist

Foresam said...

If you were alive during civil rights and Viet Nam, you should understand what she's doing. If you weren't, read your history and learn how these causes were won.
That should tell you what Dr Laibow is doing that's dishonest.

blouse said...

that makes no sense..
anyway, i hope to god codex doesnt actually happen but if it does you will just wish you had supported her.
i work in a health food shop like i said and its scary the amount of illnesses pharmacuticals cause, i wouldnt have been exposed to such a wide range of problems that occur from these drugs had i not been working there for 4 years. but now, i cant think of anything worse than them. i dont actually give a shit how rima laibow is 'supposed' to be trying to win this as long as she does!

Foresam said...

Blouse,
Rima Laibow is not trying to win. She's trying to make people believe that sending emails to politicians is a good use of their time. Those emails just get deleted or "blocked" and not even seen.
The only way to beat the US government is to follow the lead of Martin Luther King, get millions of people on your side, and jam the action you want taken down their throats in public so they can't hide from it. This means educating people on the street who know nothing about it, not just enlisting the support of people on the internet who are already aware of the problem.

Rozzko said...

You're both wacko. Stop spending time, energy and resources on this personal battle and get fighting for vaccine damaged autistic kids.

Foresam said...

Rozzko,
Part of the problem with helping vaccine damaged kids is that we have to defeat the propaganda whereby most of the population is not even aware of the true problem.

cgt33 said...

She is a con artist and part of the controlled opposition efforts. Dr. Rath, John Hammell and other authentic health freedom fighters denounce her efforts and discuss it in more detail. Her husband was part of the effort that is detailed in the book "Men Who Stare at Goats" He knows very well about mind control and being in the controlled opposition efforts orchestrated via means such as her campaign.

Cherrielane said...

You're a real piece if work, Foresam.

Foresam said...

Thank you!