Thursday, February 18, 2010

Google Games

This morning, all of my blogs had been deleted by Google. Now, they're back with no explanation. Google apologized but gave me no details. So, until they explain why they thought it was acceptable to ignore the first amendment, I'll leave my opinion of them up on Hating Autism Two. Nobody should ever screw around with the first amendment.

66 comments:

jonathan said...

Congrats, you have outwitted neurodiversity again, I still wish I could outwit clay adams, but google has not responded to my DMCA takedown of his TOS violation using my photo. If your stuff is considered "hate speech" so should his insults of me and my family

Droopy said...

I need to get this said and in plain view and I'm fairly confident John Best will allow it through and I doubt Stephanie Lynn Keill will let it through.

This is in response to yet another of her windy discourses through my life (I won't post the link no need to give her BS further plug)

she was on about my father being an alcoholic, my stays in institutions (which lasted longer than this chick's even been alive, most of it happened before she was even born since they were starting to close these places down by then),

she then went on carrying on about how she's the 'worst off autistic on the internet' (puh-lease, its Baggs and Age926 and on and on all over again) and on and on, and here's what I finally had to say about it:


"Pretty much everyone else I have met on the internet is a higher-functioning high-functioning autistic than me."

Wrong.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvSxbOVBEnk



(I posted the above a second time but longer but I lost the second posting, it was detailing how she reminds me of Detroit and a place I was in there, she hasn't even been alive as long as I was in those places, but most of all of how very much she reminds me of wiggas like Eminem and how every time she types anyting I'm reminded most of that particualr song of his, and how she's every bit as dangerous as Baggs, and sure she'd play the "I'm too autistic to understand' like she was with commentors before me I thought it more and also posted the following)


Here, lets see if this is a bit clearer and specific enough to remove any confusion even for you and "Age" and every other sick and twisted psuedo-autistic who can't even come up, can't even dream up something to say or draw from on your own

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBbrqgiTuuo

and you have the gall on top of it all to add how you 'wonder why' somebody who has actually lived through the things I have no longer wishes to talk about it anymore

-- with anybody --

I'm sick to death of you people treating me and my life like its some kind of public domain, some kind of a smorgasbord for all you pathetic otherwise average cretins to pick apart and swap and share between yourselves at your leisure, you're like a bunch of goddamned vultures ripping at my flesh -- and 'the body,' -- mine!

Droopy said...

Another post to Stephanie Lynn Keil, I'm giving this to John Best here (and thank you John, I've just completely way beyond had enough of this) because if somebody's gonna talk about me for god's sake it may as well at least be ME

What's it gonna be next, "Steph"?
are you going to prattle on about my genius asperger brother who loves the Beach Boys as much as I love the Beatles and who's gifted with languages and has had some 'unusal' employers and career experiencs as a result? My sister, my mother?
Is it gonna be the work activity when I was in places, or the sheltered workshop and the forklift when I was in group homes? oh and group homes are you going to talk about them next?

Maybe you'll get carried away with just how it was I came to to go the university and what did the workshop have to do with that

what's it gonna be Steph, hmm?

whats gonna be next?
the BLIS and WULF boards and the spray bottles of 'school'? Just when I think you lot, all of you, have combed over and extracted and exposed and made a mockery of every last nugget of my private life and there can't possibly be anything left to be picked over, no, there you are again

are you going to make a claim for my particular love of music, The Beatles in particular and make a claim for my hearing and aural recall abilities?

How about the way the Beatles were actually the reason I learned to walk? or maybe you prefer to claim you too used to pull your hair until somebody said "the beatles don't pull their hair"

What's it gonna be Steph?

You want to go into graphic detail about abuse I took in the bathrooms at places I have lived and the surgery I had to have as a result?

Maybe you wanna talk in detail about some of the people I lived with, worked with, are you gonna talk about Rick, the autistic man I sat beside for years and once in a while helped him click his piece counter so he'd get paid and I was the only female he didn't mind being around because I don't have a gawdawful squealy high voice even when I do vocalise, you wanna claim you went to a special 'prom' at 19 with a boy who had Down's Syndrome?

What, what's it gonna be Steph? what, hmm?

Do you maybe want to claim you're in court for your life right now.. you wouldn't know that just two days ago I was threatened with being moved, my apartment taken away and my placed in an 'assisted living' setting, that's sure to be good and 'juicy' hmm?

wanna talk about sign language and how its so hard for me to do that, damned near as impossible as speech?

DO you want to talk about natural splintered senses and how I had to work to see and hear the same as others do (as much as I am able)?

What's it gonna be next, Steph, from my personal fucking life that is none of your or anybody else's goddamned business and that you have no right to be doing this with, what part are you going to use as part of your game next?

What have I overlooked, what have I failed to cover that I can be sure to see you and your ilk spouting off with as if its your own?
I'm going to give this post to John Best so you think you're gonna be slick and just not post this and use it to steal even more from me, think again.

Foresam said...

Hi Droopy,
I think I banned Stephanie from posting here but, if she wants to say soemthing, I'll allow it.

Droopy said...

Man I hope that new proposed DSM thing just cuts them right off, every last one of them


Something I don't know if anyone has ever thought about, but I had my 'epiphany' with the typewriter just shortly before this (already much eagerly awaited by then Tsoncik and the rest of the vultures already gathered for "Autism chats" with them sitting there in eager anticipation, preparing their letters to their therapists to badger for a swap in labels from their "Borderline Personality Disorder" the very picosecond the book came off the printer

and my dumb ass, in the "Resource Room" in the honors college (because it turns out 'gifted' students get a 'resource room too and who knew?) on the "Macintosh' discovering the internet and "IRC"... walking in on all this, never having it dawn on me, no clue what a freak of nature I am and what a bunch of BIGGER freaks of nature (people who desparately WANT to be be labeled as and seen as 'autistic' and would do anything and everything to have it) I was wandering into

They've stolen from me, but you know there wouldn't have even been an "Autism spectrum" a Tsoncik or any other to even have their 'autism chats' to begin with, none of this, none of them to even start this shit in the first place,

if they'd left the damned book alone in 1994/1995 to begin with

well they didn't (and maybe they're finally putting it back so its right again with this, I hope so!) and in the meantime,


there is no way I can possibly say this to them any better or any more straightforward or succinctly than the lyrics themselves:


"I'm sick and tired of hearing all about my life from other bitches with all of your lies wrapped up so tight,
so maybe you should shut your mouth (shut your fucking mouth)
"

Kent Adams said...

Man, I just love when Droopy rants, even when she rants against me.

Droopy is the real deal and I love that she says what is on her mind without regard for the consequences. That's the real deal.

Droopy said...

And the "Anti-Amanda" speaks (on her own blog, with a special entry just for me while of course failing to post any of my comments)


Stephanie Lynn Keill said
"Friday, February 19, 2010
"@Droopy
I really think you need some psychotherapy.
"

My reply:
"I really think you need to get your own damned life."


(now, who didn't see that coming?)

Droopy said...

Do you really wanna know?

When I really look it all over, everything that's happened since 'making it' from my very lucky break at communication, my emancipation, where I was to have my place in this world that finally was to included my own home, and at last my safety, my privacy, and my own life

only to have it met with all this, and the screwing I've been taking, we've all been taking, and all that's happened over the years, the way some of it has really very nearly killed me, from those in the early chats who used to literally place bets and laugh, trying to get me to suicide, the way I got so sick I really nearly died after 'the world' (by way of Baggs on CNN) said my existence is nothing but a joke, the way these people all move like an unthinking conscious-less pack, taking, from all of us, the way I was expected to just run and hide and take my dose, you know they must figure once a victim always a victim, that maybe from what I'd already been through that somehow maybe I should 'know the drill' curl up in a ball, hide and maybe die for what now these people have been handing out,

and then I think about it again...

and that's when I get angry, really angry, an anger from deep inside

and for that, I make no apologies


Warning, very "strong/graphic" language ahead


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHkejDwIZSs>

Foresam said...

Droopy,
Instead of letting the psychological warfare experts make you angry, you should just write about them, and make videos about their assault on you.

I used to be angry with the actions of Kirby and Handley for selling out our kids. I feel much better about that since I wrote about their deception.

CharlesR said...

Hmm it looks like I am the first person to be banned from both your blog and Timelord's. That has to be some kind of accomplishment.

jonathan said...

I see google put up some sort of warning about your blog. I guess they are still playing games.

Droopy said...

Its not a matter of 'letting' anything, its just there, and it serves an important function, several in fact

Sometimes it is sloppy and all over the place to be sure,
but its also the kind of anger that when I get right down to it can lend itself to a kind of 'narrowing of the eyes,' a 'levying of a look' even if its something done mentally, its a sharpening thing and a becoming fueled focused thing even calm in a way I don't think I can quite describe.

Its most of all a survivor's thing, and something I have to 'rise to,' if that makes any sense to anyone reading this at all (it just might to someone if they've 'been here').

In martial arts when this sort of focus is applied to one's body its called 'chi' (which apparently is one of my few strengths, something I have an unusual natural amount of going for me according the one martial arts instructor knew).

I have no idea what its called when its a mechanism of the mind.

I just call it 'survivor's anger' and I know it can be and at times has been very good thing and has served me well.

Anyway, I've been listening (both to my survivor's anger and the song I linked above) so at least here's the link to the song (and this time without a typo)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHkejDwIZSs

Stephanie Lynn Keil said...

@Droopy: I'm not publishing your posts or responding to you because you are acting delusional.

You think I am copying your life but I am not.

You can continue with this if you wish but it only makes you look like an idiot, not me.

Let's Get Real said...

Stephanie > "I have severe autism" Oops, "I mean I have LFA with a high IQ", which eventually morphed into "I am someone with HFA".

What are you today?

sophie said...

Stephanie,

Droopy may be delusional, but she isn't an "idiot". This recurring theme that Droopy feels people are copying her life
(apparantly now you're the next target) does make her sound delusional, but she is also intelligent and socially aware, not an "idiot" which is an offensive term. I think it's important to think about the kind of words we use to describe people-even if we're angry with them..

Droopy mentions "Chi" which roughly translated means life force or a vital type of energy that needs to be kept in proper balance. "Chi", like "prana" can wax and wane in our bodies depending on how calm our environment is, *how and what we are thinking* and depending on overall general health. For Droopy, it's not in balance at the moment..

Foresam said...

If you people want to discuss Google's abuse of the Constitution, you're welcome to comment here.

Your off-topic stuff will all be deleted shortly. If you want to copy it and put it in an appropriate place to continue your discussion, I suggest you do so.

This is thee first amendment that Google is playing games with here. That should bother you.

sophie said...

Well, the Droopy saga stuff may be off topic, but the part about the kind of language that we choose to use to refer to people is not off topic. It's important. Obviously google thinks so too.

This blog uses "hate" speech, John, the way that it is typically defined. It's not just about using some insulting words/swearwords/graphic phrases etc which you do regularly
(that's actually just a minor- irritating -potentially- hurtful -blip in the whole big scheme of things- thing)

it's about you targeting **a group of people**
-Those with Aspergers-
and denouncing them, and.. well, hating them. And really trying to instigate hate against this group.
That's bigotry, even if you obviously don't think so.

So I'm not surprised that google forwarns people about the objectionable nature of the content here. It's.. objectionable.
You still have "free speech", though. They could have just deleted your blog..

Foresam said...

Sophie,
You are one of the liars who oppose curing severely autistic children. Pointing out your lies is not "hate speech".

Most of the people you associate with are liars who falsely claim to have autism and make the incredible claim that they do not want to be cured.

Every person with autism wants a cure. To say otherwise is insane.

I understand that it's your job as a propaganda agent to refer to everything I say as "hate speech". That doesn't make it true.

jonathan said...

Sophie: I am autistic and wish I could be cured though I realize that is not realistic.

If the things that John Best writes on here is hate speech, then what about Clay Adams blog posts taking cheap shots at my disability and insulting my parents and calling me abusive names. What about the autistic bitch from hell's statements that autistics that she does not agree with should be lined up against the wall and shot or strangled and turned into cat food.

Aren't those hate speech also. Seems to me that neurodiversity throws stones out of a house made of fragile glass.

sophie said...

Hi Jonathan,
Neurodiversity is a *concept* and the people who may believe in this *philosophy* don't have a hive mind, and can and do think for themselves.
I'm even on record here saying that we ALL should watch the kind of language we use to describe others. That goes for "ND" people too whoever they might be.

It's not right for anyone to insult and/or abuse you, your parents, or your disability. I do think it's possible to debate stuff without resorting to those kinds of tactics.

Your wish to be cured is understandable from your point of view, and if there were a cure to be had it would be **your choice** to have one.
Personally, I don't feel the 'need' for any type of final solution to being autistic.

Hate speech goes beyond insulting individuals -it's bigotry against ~a group~. In this specific case, people with aspergers syndrome. John hates 'em.
Just because John doesn't think he engages in "hate speech" doesn't mean he doesn't.

Take care.
---------------------------

John:Every person with autism wants a cure. To say otherwise is insane.
Sophie: Not everyone with autism wants a cure. To say otherwise is arrogant, and a very narrow rigid point of view.

Foresam said...

Sophie,
Thanks for confirming that you're a psychological warfare agent. I cured one son of Asperger's. Does that mean I hate him?

I rescued some young kids with Asperger's from your brainwashing and they sought help. They had been sucked in by your brainwashing and believed your nonsense about a cure not existing. That cure has existed now for ten years.

So, you confirm you're a liar and a manipulator every time you use words like: "if a cure existed".

You're the one who hates kids with Asperger's, Sophie. You're the one who lies to them and tells them they should celebrate having their brains damaged by mercury. You're the one who keeps lying and telling people autism is genetic.

If you weren't a liar, you'd want to know exactly how I cured my son. You wouldn't keep saying it's not possible.

Droopy said...

John,
I had to put it somewhere where I could trust it would be seen and people made aware,
and Jonathan is at times admittedly bit too weak-kneed to address or let the truth out some things (Jonathan wimps out on admitting that Baggs is a full on fraud, he knows SLK is bullshit but in the efforts of keeping someone appeased and in our few numbers who's at least claiming to be anti-neurodiversity even chose to link to her blog, but at the same he's too chicken to actually include a link to mine)

Stephanie's -- again quite in keeping with Baggs' tactics -- as both are quite content to sit where they can, uncontested and with many of their 'followers' completely unaware they're being thrown what, when coming from these con-artists, is complete BS.

I find it just another ironic display of the 'Neurodoverisity'
hypocrisy that the very nature of the intended 'insults' tossed out by these people are invariably attempts to disparage someone's alleged.. neurological differences.. the intellect, the mind

"idiot' "delusional' and so forth (gasp!)

"Lookither.. her mind is wrong!"

"She's neurologicaly.. different!"
(hooha hooboy!)

what an "interesting" response for something called "Neurodiversity" (and its moles and others feigning another 'difference' -- Autism) to make..

I'm sure people people who are still considered to have intellectual challenges as well as those who actually have mental illnesses (and who aren't trying to avoid their real problems by escapism, pretending instead to be Autistic) would be quite bolstered and encouraged to see your views and to know how they are included in your visage.

(and yes, that's a bit of sarcasm)

Droopy said...

Hey John, at least this one's got The Rolling Stones in it


Anonymous said...

A song for Droopy, since she thinks that everything is about her:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqPR0ltgwpU



My response:

LOL, what a genius reply,
Since if when you actually listen to the lyrics, Carly was having quite an intentional play of irony in that the lyrics and the song itself actually is quite "about" its subject she sang about (who it is believed by some to actually be Mick Jagger).

and since in this context you've actually said its a 'song for' Droopy, me, your's truly -- as directed towards me in this way by you, then voila, so be it, and so it is (d'oh!)

Good show good show.

Here's an interesting version
(not that "SLK" is about to let any of this through, its not like she's up to the challenge of being exposed any more than Baggs or the rest of the gang deep into such a feedfrenzy. Seems as long as you want to keep playing; seems I want to keep calling you out.

Enjoy :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASKtB2hbMhU&feature=fvw

sophie said...

"You're the one who lies to them and tells them they should celebrate having their brains damaged by mercury. You're the one who keeps lying and telling people autism is genetic.
If you weren't a liar, you'd want to know exactly how I cured my son. You wouldn't keep saying it's not possible"
--------------------
John, most people know that there is a genetic component to Autism. You seem to be one of the very few who don't know this.

Does it feel weird not to ever trust *anybody*?

I already know how you "cured" your son (though last time you mentioned it he just had a few ADHD traits not Aspergers) because it's mainly all you talk about besides hating people with aspergers who don't hate autism:

The protocol according to Andy Cutler (of deranged mineral transport fame) and
6 bucks a bottle ALA.

Again, the general public (and most scientists across the planet) seem to be woefully unaware of him, or his protocol. I know for a fact that their great ignorance about this exciting, inexpensive, "cure for autism" has nothing to do with me.

My son's brain, my own, and many other brains, however, aren't mercury damaged so chelation isn't at all necessary.

Annnnd If it ain't broke, why fix it?

jonathan said...

he knows SLK is bullshit but in the efforts of keeping someone appeased and in our few numbers who's at least claiming to be anti-neurodiversity even chose to link to her blog, but at the same he's too chicken to actually include a link to mine)

Droopy give me your URL here or by private email and I will provide a link to your blog.

I have no reason to doubt Stephanie. She has always been nice to me and regardless of whatever her circumstances are she seems to have something valuable to say and so I link to her blog. I link to things I am interested. Also ND blogs such as Michelle Dawson and autistic aphorisms.

jonathan said...

Droopy I have added a link to your safe space blog on my blog, so I am no longer too chicken.

Foresam said...

Sophie,
There's not a generic and mythical "genetic component" to autism. There's a real "genetic component" and it's name is the APO-E4 protein. People with the APO-E4 protein can not excrete mercury and it stays in their brains after MD's shoot it into them. It's not some myth that means someone might wind up autistic without the mercury added.

All forms of autism are mercury induced brain damage. If you have an ASD, that means that's what you have. If your brain isn't damaged, you don't have an ASD.

Andy Cutler's one of the few people I trust on the internet. There's too many liars to take chances with trust. I don't see you promoting his work so it IS your fault that more people aren't aware of him. He wrote two books and lots of people learn of him through them.

Droopy said...

Jonathan, do you realize you have just spouted verbatim the justification I've heard so many times from Neurodiversity regarding their harboring of Amanda?

"She has always been nice to me and regardless of whatever her circumstances are she seems to have something valuable to say?"

your response amounts to nothing more than the response that was so common for so long (and you notice that the truth on Baggs really has eventually won out and in light of that I am gratified that a lot of these people that used to bang on me so hard about this suddenly just don't have much to say to me about it any more, but it used to be so much of over and over...

and I will never forget or forgive a group of people (and believe me quite a few made a point to pop up and participate in one way or another and made sure I knew it) who have knowingly participated in the Baggs fiasco

(and its not like any of them have ever come around to say 'hey droopy, we're sorry' anyway, and I don't expect they ever will)

"So what if she's a fraud, she says such lovely things and she expresses herself so well"

-- that just absolutely does not cut it and is the rhetoric of people who have absolutely no clue,

a total failure to take into account some really fundemental things, the concept of other human beings, concepts of truth, right and wrong, human rights, Autism or really much of anything else

You can't take a moral high-ground when dealing with people who are deceitful when you're willing and got no problem with sinking to doing/allowing the exact same thing.

When you get so worked up over a mockup song of you somebody else has put up on the web (and yes, that's an awful thing but fairly inconsequential comparative to a wrong of this magnitude that has bigger implications well beyond whats being done specifically to me) but you blow over something of this magnitude because its not you its happening to and its 'handy' to go along with the flow, Jonathan I think you really need to stop and think, take a little retrospective/introspection time on the matter to think things over.

in the meantime,
thanks for including my blog and
I retract the blog portion (but only that) of my earlier 'chicken' comment.

Droopy said...

"Steph":
"You shouldn't psychologically abuse an already emotionally fragile autistic person.

You might regret it later.

I already get psychotherapy for everything else in my life and now I'll need it for this, too.

I don't enjoy being abused, so I'm going away until my psychiatrist and I figure out what to do about it.
"


Me:
Since when I'm addressing/dealing with you Stephanie I'm hardly dealing with any 'emotionally fragile autistic person" but instead only another con-artist yet again, that statement is really rather a moot point, don't you think?

and there's that 'internet psychotherapy' you've talked about before (at least that's something that's certainly of your design or at very least not based on me and my life)

but since you recommended that I 'get psychotherapy' in one of your earlier comments to me -- can I sign up for it your email therapist too?

but seriously,
I could care less any more what motivates this, what justification, lack of understanding that the experiences of real people are not to be reduced to your marioman video game redition for personal gratiification, I don't care why you or she or anyone else does this, or what your underlying problem is,

all I knowk and all I care about is that I really don't enjoy being psychologically raped by people like you and Baggs et al, and that is exactly what you and Baggs et all do -- its an extremely high level of abuse that cuts right down to a persons very core, their existence.
I am a human being, I'm not your tool. Neither Autistic people and the autistic community are your tools or your play things. Learn that, grow up, find some productive activity, deal with your own life and issues, step off this thing you're doing, step off of me and my life.

I've lived through enough, had enough already and you have absolutely no right to heap on more with this.

Are you hearing me?

I suppose you figured if Baggs can get away with it, if one can victimize and do it, why not two.
Well you were wrong
What you apparently didn't realize is I have learned a few things from suriving the Baggs experience and I don't victimize that easily any more, and I am a survivor.

so don't you even bother trying to play any reversal victim/pity card here.

"expect no sympathy from me..."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHkejDwIZSs

Droopy said...

and Sophie, lets really take a look at this, shall we?

From where I clicked to make a report from clay's 'satire' page (side note for Jonathan, here, yes I'm listening and taking this serious -- and I admit it'd be nice if you'd honor me and my situation with as much)

"Blogger strongly believes in freedom of speech. We believe that having a variety of perspectives is an important part of what makes blogs such an exciting and diverse medium. With that said, there are certain types of content that are not allowed on Blogger. While Blogger values and safeguards political and social commentary, material that promotes hatred toward groups based on race or ethnic origin, religion, disability, gender, age, veteran status, or sexual orientation/gender identity is not allowed on Blogger."

Forgive me if I'm wrong John and step up to correct as needed
John Best does not "hate people with Aspergers" -- he has no use for the group (which you say is only 'a concept' and not people anyway) -- Neurodiversity -- and neither do I.

Why?
The short answer:
Neurodiversity is hating on disabled people (see above google explanation)

I don't care if the KKK puts on the most lovely facade, holds banquets in honor of Black people and eventually manages to wedge themselves into government positions over civil rights and somehow it becomes acceptable for somebody wearing al jolson blackface stands up and sings with the most lovely voice at these things so people incredibly say its "well its okay, I can overlook it (and how it demeans the Blacks and their rights), I won't look too close, he sounds so lovely" (which is exactly what has been done and said about the Baggs situation)

Hate is still hate and oppressors are still oppressors no matter how pretty you dress them up -- and its the same damned thing here -- you guys are hating on us, people disabled by Autism and no matter how nicely you try to say it or what you tried to hide it under. You are the ones who should go

but I think, Sophie, as I have noticed about you before and John in his own way has pointed out -- you already know that.

You're maybe not fooling as many as you think with this.

Stephanie Lynn Keil said...

Just to reassure everyone, I do see a "real" psychiatrist, not one over the internet like Droopy wants to claim. He has both an MD and a PhD. In fact, he is supposedly one of the best psychiatrists in the country, a real diamond in a field of coal. I've also seen many other psychiatrists/mental health professionals that know about me and my life as well and I also live near a medical university where plenty of doctors know me as well.

I do not give out names of my psychiatrists/people who know me because

1. I do not have their permission
2. They deserve their privacy
3. People like Droopy would try to contact them to verify I exist and they really have more important things to do

You shouldn't psychologically abuse an already emotionally fragile autistic person.

You might regret it later.

I already get psychotherapy for everything else in my life and now I'll need it for this, too.

I don't enjoy being abused, so I'm going away until my psychiatrist and I figure out what to do about it.

Droopy said...

Repeating but with only slight modification:

Stephanie,

Since when I'm addressing/dealing with you Stephanie I'm hardly dealing with any 'emotionally fragile autistic person" but instead only another con-artist yet again, that statement is really rather a moot point, don't you think?

and there's that 'internet psychotherapy' you've talked about before (at least that's something that's certainly of your design or at very least not based on me and my life)

I don't consider myself 'fragile' but the fact that you failed to take the advice you're giving and you have been abusing an autistic person (me) with your antics in spite of the fact you've been asked to stop -- and if yes, you have come to regret it and may continue to regret it more if you insist on keeping it up -- that's on you -- sometimes you reap what you sow -- that is assuming this isn't still more drama tactics and bullshit (which is exactly what it looks like to me)

but since you recommended that I 'get psychotherapy' in one of your earlier comments to me -- can I sign up for it your email therapist too?

I am glad to hear you are going to 'see your psychiatrist(s) -- good -- I think you need to do that a whole lot more

but seriously,
I could care less any more what motivates this, what justification, lack of understanding that the experiences of real people are not to be reduced to your mario-man video game rendition for personal gratification, I don't care why you or she or anyone else does this, or what your underlying problem is,

all I know and all I care about is that I really don't enjoy being psychologically raped by people like you and Baggs et al, and that is exactly what you and Baggs et all do -- its an extremely high level of abuse that cuts right down to a persons very core, their existence.
I am a human being, I'm not your tool. Neither Autistic people and the autistic community are your tools or your play things. Learn that, grow up, find some productive activity, deal with your own life and issues, step off this thing you're doing, step off of me and my life.

I've lived through enough, had enough already and you have absolutely no right to heap on more with this.

Are you hearing me?

I suppose you figured if Baggs can get away with it, if one can victimize and do it, why not two.
Well you were wrong
What you apparently didn't realize is I have learned a few things from suriving the Baggs experience and I don't victimize that easily any more, and I am a survivor.

so don't you even bother trying to play any reversal victim/pity card here.

"expect no sympathy from me..."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHkejDwIZSs

Droopy said...

PS, given what you've been doing (and sufficient and to the point that a number of people on seeing your rendition actually thought you were me creating some character named "stephanie" -- yes people who know me actually thought you were me)

after you've been asked, repeatedly to quit and respect my own and you've chosen to persist anyway,
seeing the very phrase 'deserve their privacy" coming from you in reference to any of this is just...

I don't even have the words for this one.

Cry me a river

then go away and get real, get your doctors' help, whatever, best of luck to you, etc have a nice life (of your own!!)

Foresam said...

Sophie,
Your lies are becoming too obnoxious. Check the Neurodiversity manual and freshen up on writing disingenuous garbage that can slide by moderators before you try to insult me some more with smear tactics.

Droopy said...

HoHum

Now it's stories & sockpuppets.

Watch for more sockpuppets and a few more replicas, new fictional 'mini-me's' to suddenly appear so when I say something she can say I'm 'crazy'

because I have a funny feeling "I'm" just about to 'spawn' in droves here

as far as her psychological warfare go, Steph really needs work (I've been able to predict her pretty well)
Its occurred to me that she's doing this just because she/they know this sort of thing really gets to me (maybe its a quirk of being Autistic that makes it so, I am starting to suspect that may be).
and right now all she's serving as is my personal distraction -- and I want to keep it that way, I don't need, and the world does need, any more Amanda Baggs

anyway, tighten your seatbelts and get ready I have a feeling we're in for more of a ride

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvSxbOVBEnk

"Attention all units, attention all units
We have an All Points Bulletin out on a man with green hair
I repeat, we have an APB on a man with green hair
He's armed with a knife, I repeat, he's armed with a knife
Proceed with caution, watch your back fella's
He could be coming at your girlfriend next

There's a joker on the loose from the psychiatric ward
His face is up on the bulletin board with a reward
He'll stab you with a sword don't be fooled by his charm
He's probably armed with intent to do bodily harm
Ring the alarm, look for a man with green hair
Check at your girl's house, he was last seen there
He's has a mean stare but usually crack's jokes
Good luck on your mission and guard your backs folks...
"

Droopy said...

and if anybody's wondering, the trick Steph preparing to commence with a whole lot of guesswork involved)
(eg., there simply was no "Bianca" on on wrongplanet or aspiesforfreedom for the three days or so I was on either of them, I have never asked anyone for doctor's names or documents -- ever and everything I've had to say to Stephanie I've copied over to here)

has a name, and its called 'gaslighting'

the next step I predict is going to be her creating about 50 or so mockup me's, mini-me's to suddenly appear here and especially on Jonathan's blog (since he'd blindly happily take them) so when I protest about them we'll have fifty Stephanie-generated entities to stand around and insist (and since there'll be fifty of 'em and one me then it must be true!) that I am 'crazy'

(as if fifty people aping after somebody wouldn't make anybody at least feel like they're going little crazy, doesn't mean they actually are, it just means exactly that you've just got a whole lot of bullying and aping and psychological warfare type idiocy going on)

ho hum

when do I get a damned action figure in my likeness for my troubles?

no, I mean, really?


Yes I am autistic and yes I am certain that is part of why this whole thing is bugging the bejesus out of me
(I do understand that how I know who I am, how I differienate myself from others is not the same as others, but still.. I kinda think this sort of thing would get on anyone's nerves after enough of it -- nobody, autistic or otherwise, likes to be made fun of harassed and rediculed)

but at the very same time I am able at least partially to step back and see the humor in this, sorta at least a little.

Bring your sockpuppets, Stephanie,
I think we're all ready for you

Have you got a clown car for 'em all?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g094B573iWI

Droopy said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTNi-ehJ-1Y

Stephanie Lynn Keil said...

Just for the record I am not creating any "sock-puppets." I always post under my name "Stephanie Lynn Keil" or SLK.

Everyone else, including "Bianca" or any anonymouses are not me.

Droopy said...

uh-huh...

Steph,
the way I see it if you're really going to try to gaslight me just because you've got no life then I'd say you've got oh, about 49 more "Droopy's not the only one!" caricatures to create and show your support (so you'd best get cracking, get busy!)

Everybody knows there's strength in numbers, might makes right and all that and if there's been a real run on Autism frauds and scam artists especially in the neurodiversity movement that it surely must only mean that I, your's truly, am completely out of my mind and could not possibly mean that you know... *cough* there's been a real run on Autism frauds and scam artists especially in the neurodiversity movement.

Are you following me here?
Good! Get on it!
You've got lots more to go!

Droopy said...

*taking my shoe off and banging it for emphasis on my desk like I think I'm Nikita Kruschev*

"I..want.. more..sockpuppets!!"

Droopy said...

reposting this over here that I've written as a reply to one of Jonathan's threads (and I may well end up 'sharing' directly with Stephanie to be doubly sure she gets the message loud and clear as well)

@JediKnight2,
well said (responding to specific parts):

yes, I am one who's been banned.

and by the way to both my knowledge and personal experience 'groupthink' and excessive desire and striving to social conformity and obsession with social acceptance were never considered symptoms or hallmarks of Autism but rather the opposite to be true

which by the way doesn't equate or mean that Autism is a blank check to disregard and dismiss self control and responsibility for your own behavior especially when its obvious you do have the tools and ability to master and take control of them

(people can't be so aware as to find 5,000 ways to elaborate with such finesse on how they feel unloved and the world should adapt itself around them only to turn claim forfeiture of 'knowing any better' when they wax constantly obnoxious and maliciously attack disabled people, their parents and essentially that same world they admittedly know so much about)

anyway,
Its quite a world we live in when Autistic people get banned from the various "Autism Clubs" (and maybe even our own "Spectrum") for both our innate lack of desire to just 'fit in' to and join up with something, anything, but most of all for our actually being Autistic.

a phrase like "Autistic gang" was an oxymoron, that is, until Neurodiversity appeared.


as its an event (Autistics banding together to move as one to do anything, much less target another individual) is not something you'll ever see in our schools, sheltered workshop, day program or institution where real autistics tend to be congregated)

I still think its an oxymoron


and yes, whenever you see the 'identical autistic' (people who not only must think alike but must take it a step farther in even adapting their claimed life's experiences, stories and entire identities and existence so that replicates that of another)

please let it be your first clue that something's very, very wrong with this picture.

John Best is quite right about the 'infighting' and I have observed individuals and tactics who indeed have come even to this, our small group (those of us who actively resist Neurodiversity) with express intent to disrupt discredit distract and divide.

There are moles among us.

Jedi, at least the exception with the camps (what you're referring to and my ancestors survived) is that to my knowledge (never heard my grandpapa speak of it) is that (at the camp level you're referring to where some Jews were intentionally give tasks of power and brutality over others in exchange/reward for privilege) is that

at very least no one had to fake being a Jew (non-Jews weren't exactly lining up to 'infiltrate' or gain entry to the camps).

Stephanie Lynn Keil said...

You know, I don't really care if people believe I'm "real" or not. I could provide you with my doctor's phone number and you could talk to him yourself but excuses about how I am a "fraud" would still be made.

So whatever.

If you don't like me than stay away from me. And I will stay away from you.

Hear?

sophie said...

Its quite a world we live in when Autistic people get banned from the various "Autism Clubs"
---------
lol
Droopy, who claims to hate neurodiversity and everyone in 'it' wants to attend an event sponsored by, and attended by advocates of "neurodiversity"
Something definitely screwy there.
Nothing else going on that you might actually believe in and enjoy, Droopy? Or you just like hating and being full of self righteous anger?

Stephanie doesn't have to prove she's real anymore than Droopy does. And Droopy is sounding more and more unreal all the time.

Speaking of moles...

Foresam said...

Sophie,
You're desperate for an excuse to abuse Droopy because she tells the truth. I've spoken to her on the phone and seen her real name on my caller ID when she called.

She's legitimate. She had the right to attend that conference and see for herself what Baggs was doing. The head of the organization resigned after she learned of the abuse and deception that was being perpetrated.

You should go read about how Sharisa Joy Kochmeister resigned because she didn't want to be associated dishonest bitches like you.

Droopy is rightfully angry. Leave her alone, you horrible excuse for a human being.

Kent Adams said...

Sophie, perhaps you should speak to Sharisa Kochmeister, former president of Autcom. She resigned over the fact that Amanda Baggs and her co-horts decided to exclude Droopy from the conference, even after forcing Droopy to produce her diagnostic papers. You are what is wrong with ND, you and those like you that want to exclude autistic people.

If those conferences have a litmus test, they should proclaim it on their websites and brochures. They should stop claiming to be "autistic friendly" if they have a litmus and political test for those that are able to attend. You are what is wrong and I suspect you are one of those self diagnosed that want to keep out real autistic people from your conferences. You are what Sharisa condemned. History will be on the side of those that were excluded Sophie, or whatever your real name is. You believe in excluding autistic people, let the world know your real name is BIGOT!

Foresam said...

Kent,
Sophie is short for "sophist".

Kent Adams said...

By the way, I have screen captures of Clay Adams basically making almost verbatim the same argument on ASAN's Yahoo board as this Sophie person. I suspect this is Clay Adams.

Actually it's short for sophia ;) said...

"You're desperate for an excuse to abuse Droopy because she tells the truth"
----------
Is that why Droopy is abusing Stephanie? Because she knows that Stephanie is telling the truth? Is that why she can't leave **her** alone?

Your logic is simply stunning, John.

Droopy wants to attend Autreat (that she doesn't believe in to begin with) to "check out what Amanda is doing" and any/all the people there who may be copying her life, and to be disruptive and not because she wants to actually learn something, or to be a positive force for any and all autistic persons in attendence there.

It's really just all about Droopy, and what Droopy wants.
Sadly for her, she's a very negative and self absorbed person.

I haven't ever had a problem with Droopy being "legitimate" as you say, her multiple diagnosi are her own business.
But her motives for wanting to attend autreat are in serious question.

And every now and then (mostly Now right now) she gets into her hypermanic phase, and the 'people are out to get me and copy my life" and self pity trip, and she creates much drama dragging innocent people like Stephanie (and others before her) into her ongoing obsession.

Who's next, I wonder..

Foresam said...

Kent,
I think Sophie is in Canada. Clay probably copied some of her comments someplace. He can't usually do much besides hurling insults.

Droopy said...

Sophie the reasons I wanted to attend Auttreat and Autcom were already thoroughly covered and discussed at the time and multiple times since (and thank you John and Kent for the refresher short form course on the main points)

but that was a real nice attempt to distract (and away from what's going on here with Stephanie)

"Sophie," btw folks for any latecomers, is the 'damage control' Neurodiversity drags in when things get a bit too squirmy -- this was her role on the AutismSpeaks forum as well) and she's one of them that has defended Amanda Baggs to the bitter end (funny Sophie, did you forget all that, or think I did? what have you got to say to me about Baggs now, hmm?)

This cretin loved to 'bring up the rear' whenever I started getting the better of the thugs on the AS forum, including her good buddies like "Timelord" -- "Sophie" keeps real good compnay and fights for real good causes (did you think anybody forgot?)

and oh now look who it is is "Sophie" here defending ... ?

If it was me, then why are you here defending Stephanie?

mole, indeed!

Droopy said...

Stephanie,
and as for you,

I told you before to leave me alone -- and that includes not only not stalking me all over Jonathan's blog any anywhere else to try to respond to my every post over there for sole purposes of you bullshitting serving up more detraction tactic but also keep my life and times out of your shit stories

you know as well as I do you never were never are any kind of severe/LFA autistic whatsoever, you were never in any special ed, never in any MR/DD institution, your stint in some psych unit for a few months doesn't 'count'
trying to sell your shit art because its "autistic' is bullshit, you're lucky if you've managed to con some "Asperger" label out of anyone

Odds are extremely good in your case your real life is completely separate and nothing like that this crap you spew is is completely the work of your secret internet life, your friends, your family your college classmates, etc etc probably have no idea you're getting online and taunting an online community and like baggs you do it because its just pixalated images and words fun and games and you figure you're not hurting people so what the hell, what the fuck, but we are real and you are hurting people.

I've made a similar offer to you before little miss overgrown teenybopper, with one of the very same concept behind it as my desire to attend those so-called autism conferences, that you, bogus "severe autistic" that you are (or whatever it is today, you change your story like the wind and lie like a rug including that crap about your 'email therapist who diagnosed you' you DID say that, deleting doesn't make it not so, people do remember things even if you hope they don't), hop right in your car and drive down come meet me (or are you pretending today you can't drive? used to be the 'severe autistic who can drive') and if after meeting me you can spend even part of a day with me, visit with me in a coffee shop even, sit across a table from me look me right in the eye (yes I will do that for this if that's what it takes) and can still talk your shit right in front of me and with a clear conscience then fine, that'll certainly be a learning experience for all (not the least of which would be me!)

that's the same reason I wanted to show up at those conferences

and that's why I make this offer to you, again I make it, come tell me how you are the worst off autistic on the internet, come tell me about the so called places you've been because you know what, some of where I have been aren't too far and we can take a drive, Steph and even with them now closed, I can show some of where I'm talking about

I an show you the MR/DD school I went to as a kid (its still in operation)show you how people like you as a kid now or ever are NOT in it

come, drive your car so look me right the eye and tell me in person this shit you're ever-changing/claiming on line

because when we're done with our day togehter, odds are very good you are going to be quite ashamed of yourself for having done this (and rightfully so)

in the meantime, until you either can do that or just somehow magically grow a conscience on your own, you can erase all that crap you've got on your blog, the bogus claims of your ever changing story that smacks of "uncanny resembles to" mine, keep my life out of your shit stories from now on and stay away from me on Jonathan's blog, this blog and any other website where you see me, capiche?

Stephanie Lynn Keil said...

I don't want to be a part of this "drama." "Droopy" obviously has mental problems and I'm not publishing anymore comments insulting anyone else.

I am going to see to my psychiatrist (a "real" one) and see what can be done.

Foresam said...

Kent, I tried to nail down where Sophie posts from but there's too many multiple entries to be sure. We do know that Neurodiversity assigns personnas for their agents when they change names to perform their disruptions. So, it could be multiple agents posting from different places using the name "Sophie".

Stephanie,
You're being abusive to a disabled person. That's not very nice but it is standard practice for Neurodiversity. It's one of the psychological ploys they use to further lower peoples' self-esteem.

The hot little chick we saw in the pictures of you just doesn't match up with your personna. Your phone call to me didn't match the location you claimed to be at. We know that Pharma uses agents who pretend to be teenagers. They're most likely old men using pictures of their daughters to try to make themselves believable.

You claim to be autistic but you abuse autistic people. If you were really autistic, you'd be sharing common concerns and would be a lot more understanding.

Foresam said...

Droopy,
Please don't let these psychological warfare experts bother you. Never believe anything they say. Every word they use is carefully designed.

I've been allowing their posts so they can be seen for their psychological intent. Please look at all of the posts by Stephanie and Sophie as psychological attacks, not as the legitimaate concerns of any actual people.

Then, ignore them.

Droopy said...

part 1

That's fine, John, and I understand completely why you allowed them through and I am glad you did

What they are doing, complete with the made up garbage they are posting here and "Steph's" "one half a phone call" tactics on her website are doing wonders... nothing is better than for example Sophie's latest claim I have "multiple diagnoses" (see this is the grand thing about screwing with an autistic with a memory -- and my banking on aat leat a few who also have good recall, or heck even search capabilities) -- because I never had 'multiple diagnoses" - etc, she's blatantly lying again, attempting to transpose her pals (such as Steph and Amanda's but really you'd be amazed the percentage of these people who do have mental problems and can't even keep their stories straight, they say so much shit and they apparently just forget and keep modifying/adapting the story as they co)

and I meant what I said about the gaslighting attempts.

Steph has cleared the her latest barrage of false claims from her blog (for the time being anyway)

and if you think somebody can get online and make false claims and then make insane statements like the one she made suggesting people like me or Jamey or Sam or Noah Greenfield or Sue Rubin or anybody else who's ever been or is at risk of it would 'like the routine' that actually exists in places like I'm talking about, yes she'd better damned well be able to prove that

as for my proving myself?

What Sophie (who its clear is using ye ol "throw shit up against the wall and see what sticks' guesswork tactic I mentioned when King Lawrence tried the same) apparently doesn't realize is I've been a part of this online so-called "Autism community" longer than nearly anyone else, save for some of the rarer older ones like in fact, Jypsy there

I've been online and visible here since Steph was what, five years old?

and my story does not, has not, changed

in addition to that, as Kent pointed out, I've handed documentation over to the belly of the beast, when I went to try to gain entry into their stupid conferences, so its not like anybody who's been around doesn't know

and until or unless I start using my life to start preaching ridiculous bullshit that harms people (like Steph and Baggs),

and until or unless you can demonstrate that there was someone before me (rots ruck!) that I magically replicate

you're shit out of luck

Droopy said...

part 2

about the only person involved in any of this who's similar to me and has a rock solid story is, ironically the one ex-Neurodiversitee they shit all over when she tried to stick up for me, and that's the one and only Sharissa Kochmeister (and our lives are not relicates of eachother -- real people are unique from one another - figure that!)

there just aren't alot of people who are both able to be here and old enough and impaired enough to have lived through the thins I'm talking about and when you see a sea of these consistently always white teen to 20's story changes daily sliding up and down the 'spectrum' dependent on what they see and what they are responding to.. you know something's up

there's a lot of fakers and suspect stuff out there and I don't like it but I do leave most of it alone (too many and too little time)

but when they step into me, and i mean step into me with this shit (and I'm sorry if my life seems to be the gold standard the bar by which they measure, jeeze this must be what its like to be the Beatles the musical standard by which people measure)

and before you waste your breath with more of the stupid 'crazy' remarks sophie (you were oh so 'politically correct' a few posts above I might add, can't even get your story straight in one thread on Best's blog)

think about how freaking crazy it is for these weirdos to be doing this in the first place


we've been here before, we've been where it was one me, only me, shouting about Baggs and I was the only one (at first) saying something and oh Droopy's crazy and on and on, you've already tried that crap

people know better now and like I said

if 50 people are lining up (and I was there, Jypsy was there so were others, Thomas McKean when they were all like sheep openly "oh you rattle street signs what a good stim, I'll have to try that" and parrotting after anything they heard -- Tisoncik recording it all, Baggs skulking in the corner

just because 50 internet autism fetishists decide to follow me around like I'm some kind of autism pied piper and I bitch about it hardly means there aren't in fact fifty autism fetishists following me around pulling this crap

there aren't literally 50 of them making the production that Baggs and Steph are -- but you get my point


lets take a little trip back in history where your "throwing shit up on the wall to see what sticks' guesswork can't go, "Sophie"

from 1994/1995 onward when I entred the scene

there were countless numbers in those chats who were openly doing this swapping 'how to be autistic',

oh and things got so bad that moderators had to start monitoring for fakers (this wasn't my ie or my doing),

for this reason one channel that continues to exist to this day demands people give an explanation on entry to this day

fakery and emulating are somethign that Baggs even ironically privately (you see she's got two, a 'private personna' and a 'public personna' -- ask her about that)

Baggs has accused someone else of copying her ("Mouse" MM, Marty)

and before she realized I was *the* autistic she'd been emulating sight un sceen in 2005 when she spied my blog she thought I was 'faking' until tisoncik clued her in

there's been so much of this and in the inner-circles of Neurodiversity (which I guess you didn't realize I was once a part of) its a well known and openly discussed fact

so it sure as hell isn't a 'droopy thing' to talk about it -- its just a 'droopy thing' to both have the inside information and have the proverbially balls to talk about it and give a crap less know I am impervious to your rather blatantly not-so-neurodiverse attempts at name-calling.

Droopy said...

part 3
(yeah I've had something to say, got the old 150 wpm with me today keeping up with my thoughts)


'crazy' is just like 'retard'
to which I say to both --
bring it on its not like its phasing or hurting me.. but you, on the other hand...

and I suggest for better efforts on your part that you learn the facts first , learn the background and whats going on before you even try to come at me again, otherwise your lies and cluelessness are really showing.

Droopy said...

woops, no, it looks like Steph didn't take the crap down after all (my browser must've done something odd there, looked like she'd ripped all but these 'one sided phone call' posts of her's down but she hasn't, the bits where she was really running people that really set me off anew are still there.


and since I have had to make this, a fourth entry, may as well mention:


anybody notice the disinclination to take me up on my offer for us to meet? I expected either that or a claim of "she's stalking me!" as a result

-- that's the result I got with former Phil Gluyas chum (and local counterpart) Zach Lassitar, somebody who is dangerous and does stalk and who unfortunately lives quite close in my area and had been raging and 'talking tough' at me in Autism Speaks (and making up random stuff about services and supports in our area which are something I do know about seeing as I live here I am quite familiar with whats available and to whom etc)

so I decided to do a remarkably non-victim move offered to meet him -- no before you bother guessing, Zach wasn't trying to emulate me, he is just very pro Neurodiversity and very prone to behave threatening both online and off and I was warding off a potentially very dangerous situation by doing the unexpected rather non-victimy thing and being willing to meet it head on.. yeah I'm 'funny that way sometimes')


in much the same manner as with Steph here I also offered to meet up with "Age296 aka Age926 aka Age1600 aka Adrianne (I don't believe this is the same "Adrianne' who's been on Jonathan's blog lately).

You'd think this would be a perfect opportunity to try to discredit me, right?

How much easier could it get, meet me, go home, get online, make up a bunch if shit about it, but no

(I have gotten a lot of threats on my life, had people rigging my telephone etc, guess that's somehow okay for them to do but not for any of them to just sit and meet and talk and get to know one another, no that's the scary stuff right there for them)

and its not like I'm some big bear or something, I am five feet in stature, multiply disabled and I'm up for going for donut and coffee at a regular donut shop/coffee stop place I go where I am a regular and they know me

somehow its okay for them to make various threats, send things in the mail, play games with my telephone, but not to just meet me

which says to me that apparently 'pixlated person from a distance is perfectly okay-fine to beat on, but we dare not risk anything that involves realizing there's a really a person on the other end of all of this"

go figure

(I have also likewise wondered if the Neurodiversitees who are right now currently so easy with brutalizing Jamey from afar from behind their computers screens would be equally so quick to be bold and hateful were they in his presence to spend even half a day actually with him)

sophie said...

John, you're making me sound waaaaay more important than I really am. I'm actually nobody, just like the rest of you guys.

There's only one of me, and I live in the Middle East. (gasp! In addition to being a 'psychological warfare expert" I'm probably a terrorist!)

Wanna see my papers? ;)

Droopy, I'm *still* at Autism Speaks. But you are not, because you were banned.
I heard it was because you were being abusive to some people there( sound familiar?)
who are on the autism spectrum whom you thought were 'faking' (sound familiar?)

..and for posting rape videos and sending them and some fairly graphic language "Timelord's" way.
( we all know who Timelord is) He was rightly banned as well. What's to defend?

As far as Amanda Baggs (whoever she is) goes, your memory seems very fuzzy. I'm not the one that is obsessed with her, and/or obsessed with being the first in the internet autism community, and/or with being the "worst autistic person on the net", or with "neurodiversity"-that'd be you.

If you had an eidetic memory like my own, you'd be able to remember that I don't personally know her or care about who Amanda Baggs is, what she did/does, when she did/does it, who she did/does it with, or even why, but merely said, and say, that she's a good writer, which is *undeniably true*. Are you trying to deny that?

You're a good writer as well, which I've said before, even if you don't/can't remember. It's too bad you choose to write all this manic venom directed towards all the various people you are always so highly suspicious of.

Stay suspicious of me, don't believe what I say, ignore me, it matters little to me personally.
But it's important to get the little details and the big true facts correct.

L'Chaim! ;)

Foresam said...

Just a friedly reminder for the cowards who want to write long posts anonymously...not here.

sophie said...

nothing is better than for example Sophie's latest claim I have "multiple diagnoses" (see this is the grand thing about screwing with an autistic with a memory -- and my banking on aat leat a few who also have good recall, or heck even search capabilities) -- because I never had 'multiple diagnoses" - etc, she's blatantly lying again, attempting to transpose her pals (such as Steph and Amanda's but really you'd be amazed the percentage of these people who do have mental problems and can't even keep their stories straight, they say so much shit and they apparently just forget and keep modifying/adapting the story as they co)
--------
well, I missed this long winded run- on sentence in all the excitement. ;)

You're the one that says you're "Multiply Disabled" Droopy. It's not about anyone " blatently lying"-If you don't have 'multiple diagnosises" to match your "plethoria of birth defects" and/or your "multiple disabilities" then I'm just simply incorrect...
There doesn't have to be a huge conspiracy made about it all.

Foresam said...

Pharma's attack on disabled people never ends, does it Sophist?

Droopy said...

Thanks, Sophie, for the comic relief, really really needed that one :D

"But it's important to get the little details and the big true facts correct" -- yep could not agree more -- which is exactly why its a damned good thing I'm here :)

is this supposed to be some kind of stupid challenge to play "dueling autistics"? (where are you going to find one?)

:)


Here's the Captain Obvious Captioning for anyone who needs it:

Sophie going back and reviewing relying on, re-reading and directly copy-pasting something only she has access to at this point (since I am banned this is something I won't have access to -- and good for Sophie for at last remembering that I was banned good show!) she will have some problems in that when an account is banned at AS all that person's text (so what I said and how conversations actually took place will be quite lost to her
but no matter, since she clearly isn't able to recall much of anything save for snippets which she intentionally gnarls and mixes with inaccuracies half truths and flat out lies intended to keep me spinning, chasing her tail to correct these 'errors'

Sophie:
"I'll just.. keep saying shit, any old shit, bogus screwed up half baked guesswork, the more bogus the better, and droopy, by her autistic nature will be drawn like a moth to light, compelled to repeatedly correct and clarify" .. and I'll just keep saying more and more bogus half-baked half truths,and whatever other entirely concocted flights of fancy, any shit, therefore keeping droopy occupied tied up and expending all her energy running in circles fruitlessly grinding to chase my fabricating tales to my delight -- until she's both explodes with frustration and wears herself out, occupying her until she has no time for anything else like, say noticing when Stephanie's kicking it into high gear again or any energy left for speaking out against neurodiversity"

oh you're a crafty one alright sophie

Sophie's Caption Obvious Captioning:
"Stay suspicious of me, don't believe what I say, ignore me"

"eidetic memory like my own"

AHAHAHAHAHAH

(sorrysorry)

Droopy said...

pfft

I love it when they play stupid, don't you?

as if being multiply disabled (with the same set of disabilities) equates anything even remotely resembling Steph and Baggs infamous and ever-changing "multiple diagnoses"

See, This is what happens when someone plays stupid (oh I'm sorry, I didn't understand the meanings! I'm too autistic to unerstand) while claiming superior memory skills ("oh I'm sorry.. yes you did say multiply disabled, not multiple diagnoses" :)

Its alright, John, I'm done, she's really one hand clapping now :)

Droopy said...

'same/consistant set of disabilities throughout life' that should have read (so she can spare us the "I'm too autistic to read and I continue to misunderstand" routine)

both of these fail miserably in their collective crapshoot

Steph still really needs to keep her basic crap under check and control.

(just so you know this "here let sophie step in and draw fire/focus away from the originating problem' tactic really isn't going anywhere)

If we end up with a second full on Baggs in full bloom with the media etc and a massive throng of unwitting believers in the bullshit, well at least it sure won't be for me not seeing this one coming and not saying something early on.

Droopy said...

Apparently Phil Gluyas has made some post somewhere bashing me (haven't found or read it yet) and elsewhere on another site one of his toons ("Scratcher")stepped up elsewhere to at once call me a 'flaiming dip' and a 'live grenade' -- here are my responses:


Scratcher I rather like your (collected) analogies,

on the thread below this your buddy (or is that just you again? with the groupthnk its hard to tell) called himself a 'fly in the ointment" and a pain (up somebody's) ass (nope its not mine sorry lol)

and now here you are parroting Phil to call me a 'live grenade' I rather like that one -- if in my unique position to expose "Neuordiversity" and its frauds (remember too that not only am I the original the real deal on which Baggs (and now another young upstart) fashions her/their 'pubic persona' -- remember that I was one of you once, a member of Neurodiverisity, one who's been on the 'inside' and from very early on and I have intimate awareness of how you folks really talk and think and how you operate, very likely far more than you yourself.

Yep, no argument with either characterization,

'cept maybe for more accuracy I'd have perhaps characterized myself maybe as one "Intercontinental Ballistic Missile" aka "ICBM" -- one that's heading right for the shores of "Neurodiveristy."

I could recite the times I was told what a powerful weapon I could have been for them, you, Neuordiversity, with my undeniable past and existence, I was destined to be the very token LFA you seek, you could ask Amy and Gareeth at AspiesForFreedom about the little talk we all had in their live chat notions they had about a 'March on Washington' with me there obviously typing for myself the rhetoric on my communicator how powerful that would have been.. but I refused to deny some obvious truths, such as Asperger's is not the same as Autism, and other things, I could not be counted on to stick to the party line, 'live wire' that I am, I tend for the truth.

You were looking for a weapon all your own, you were looking for your token LFA, a very powerful tool in your arsenal, I was your first choice, as you yourselves said would have been one 'unstoppable' and you almost had it, me, for yoruselves.. almost


I suppose you think that's 'crazy' but then,

as for AutCom and Autreat?

It seems they must quake at the very notion of my 5'0" (that's 1.524m to you) not only Autistic but multiply-disabled frame sitting in a corner, quietly doing nothing but being present, simply observing and taking in all the 'activities.'

If somebody or something's so on the up and up and got nothing to hide and is so tried and true and and so all inclusive honest and open as you/they/Neurodiversity say, then what have you got to fear, really, and especially least of all, since you say there's so many of you able bodied genius types and just one of 'little ol' (not to mention mentally handicapped and inferior by default) me'?

Either I'm just a joke, a 'flaming dip' as you say, a fool, a loon to be laughed at and dicounted and ignored who should not be feared in any way whatsoever, left to do and go (such as to Autcom/Autreat etc) where I please,

or I do in fact, by the validity of what I know, who I am and 'where I am coming from' present a very real and very viable threat to expose the truth and intents your collective efforts,.

Which is it then?


Here's something else that comes to mind whenever I think about my (actually rather frequent over the years) skirts with Neurodiversity (that date back to before it even had a name)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kR7a0Gm379E