Tuesday, May 01, 2007

Neurodiversity Attacks the Geiers (Again and Again and Again)

Kathleen Seidel has launched another attack of character assassination on the Geiers. She also told us, indirectly, why every word she says should be completely ignored.

"As a student in library school many moons ago, ..." This is what Kathleen Seidel says about herself in her blog. So, we see that she is an old librarian.

In her latest stab at character assassination on the Geiers, she tries to claim that they are doing something wrong because their degrees don't match up with the work they do to cure autistic kids.

Thus, by Kathleen's own reasoning, she has disqualified herself from being able to offer any valid opinion on anything the Geiers do because she is an old librarian and not a scientist. She is also not a decent parent who helps autistic children. That also disqualifies her from being able to offer a valid opinion on the subject.

Thank you Kathleen for disqualifying your long-winded garbage from being worthy of consideration by anyone. Please stick to restacking books.

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John Best said...

Anonymous, You've been here before using your pot calling kettle black idiocy.Go back to neuroinsanity and keep your BS out of here.

Anonymous said...

Foreskin followers.
I have been censored *gasp* *surprise*.

Just a warning, don't try to disagree with Mr. Best, and certainly don't provide proof or answers to his and others questions, he's not interested in being proven wrong.

Go ahead coward, censor me again.

Joeker said...

Censored Anon: Feel free to say what you were going to say over at my blog, Blog of many trades. I have a blogpost there for Anon commenters.

Proof? Answers? I'd like to judge for myself. Of course, being ND doesn't exactly help your case.

Anonymous said...

Why is it that autism is the only disorder people actually celebrate and want to keep?

Sure autism tends to correlate with certain gifts. Big deal. I have Tourettes and it tends to correlate with a higher IQ and better athletic ability(I only got the first part though). And even though its very mild now and I dont have the swearing kind if I was offered a risk-free, reasonably cheep cure I'd take it.

Tons of disorders correlate with gifts. I have a friend who has schizophrenia. Schizophrenics tend to be more creative and he is, but would he refuse a cure? Of course not. He's not as insane as he was, now mostly he hears disembodied voices but knows they're not real even though they sound real. He'd love for those tormenting voices to get out of his head. But on top of that even though he recognizes its a disability he will not apply for SSI, because he's held down many jobs without a problem and his disability hasn't been a problem for years. He could probably get it but he believes that if you are able to work you shouldn't apply for SSI. If he doesn't need SSI then autistic people who claim to not even be disabled definitely shouldn't be applying for it. Shame on you. And given the gifts that many autistic people have the trend of autistics to go on SSI might cost us our next Einstein.

I'm taking statistics and one thing they teach you is "Correlation does not imply causation." Just because certain conditions correlate with gifts doesn't mean the condition caused the gifts.

Regardless, cures aren't designed to cure gifts they're designed to cure problems. And I don't see how logically a cure would get rid of any gifts even if the autism did somehow cause them. A cure wouldn't suddenly change the person's whole mind and give them complete knowledge of social skills. Your experience of having lived with autism before would stay with you along with anything you picked up on as a result of that experience. And you wouldn't suddenly have social knowledge, you'd just have a normal capacity to learn it. Learning social skills would be a gradual process.

Not that people should be forced to be cured. Any medical treatment without the consent of the patient is assault. If you want to keep your disease go right ahead but don't expect to keep collecting SSI once a simple cure is available and you refuse it.

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